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Ivy and VPS have tattoos. LOTS of people have tattoos. Lots of BLOGGERS have tatoos. E@L does not.

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Well no PERMANENT tattoos. (Those were done in Koh Samui in 2002, lasted a week or so. Also bought some low-grade ganja that week. Why? I don't even smoke! Work was getting me down, it was a time of rebellion.)

Anyway...

The comments to the previous post started to veer off in an interesting thread, in my opinion, so I thought I'd bring up here to see if anyone else wants to pitch in and defeat my sarcasm.

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I had said this:

You're all mad, I reckon. You know, fashion is by definition ephemeral and yet tattoos are permanent... I note a essential conflict there, some form of intrinsic denial, some self-deluding blindness to a cultural oxymoron, to a mutually exclusive set of congnitive dissonances... In 5 years time non-tattooed skin is going to be what everyone thinks is sexy...and I'll be right in there! yee-ha!

Ivy and VPS then defended their tattoos, saying they didn't get them for fashion reasons.

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Yes, of course, you're both right, absolutely. Personal choice, nothing to do with fashion, peer group, rebellion from older generation, nose-snubbing at parents, nothing like at all. If tattoos didn't exist, you would have invented them, right? Far be it from me to impugn your independent thinking and individuality... ;-)

Q: Why haven't I got a tattoo then?

A1: Because I am a blind follower of the trend NOT to get tattoos? or

A2: Because I nearly did when I young but I pulled out because I reckon they'd HURT!!!!!!

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"Tattoos (1691) - Self-mutilation fad which first became popular in the 1600s when explorers brought the practice back from the South Seas [!]. The fad recurred as an upper-class craze in the Edwardian era. Jennie Jerome, Winston Churchill's mother, had a snake tattooed around her wrist. Tattooing became popular again in World War II, this time amongst servicemen and especially sailors, again in the sixties as part of the hippie movement, and yet again in the late eighties. Tattooing has the disadvantage of being a passing fad with permanent results." Connie Willis - Bellwether 1996.

(A great read! If you see any Connie Willis books, read them, they're generally outstanding - astute often amusing social commentary usually in a science fiction (time-travel) genre.)

The tattoo trend that started in the 80's is still on-going, so this is a very persistent fad.

Much more so than say, the popularity of the Coonskin Caps, made famous by Davy Crockett (king of the wild fronteeeeeer) in the period May 1955 to Dec 1955. This fad collapsed just before Christmas, leaving retailers with huge stocks no longer wanted as presents, and America saddled with the irretrievable loss of many Raccoon-skin coats (of the 20's fad), which were ripped apart to make the hats.

In Cajun-french, no less!

see further: Tulip Mania

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I do think that modestly done (as in % of flesh area disfigured) tattoos are sexy, but only because I am human being, slave to the vicissitudes of peer pressure, personal insecurity and an exploitative mass media that knows how to tweak my hormonal buttons.


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Biker chick? on the beach at Samui.


Bring me up differently, and I'd suspect that you were all members of bikie gangs, or ex-cons or WWII sailors with excellent rejuvenative surgery, and I'd be VERY SUSPICIOUS that you'd all have Hepatitises B through H.

However I reckon the skin over a girl's tattoo tastes sweeter... especially one on the lower back, the back of the shoulder, or at the start of the groin crease, or on the upper inner thigh... oooh, time for a cold shower!

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[I see so many holes in my argument it's ridiculous, can you find them? Hint: fashion = trend? T/F?]

E@L

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Posted by: expat@large on Apr 07, 07 | 1:08 pm | Profile


OTHER MONKEYS SAID



What sexy tattoos! I can feel something in my knickers already! Oh wait it's my vibe I forgot to take it out.

Well the thing is that I've been drawing on myself since I was a little girl, just little things that little girls liked...flowers..ponies..ribbons..Prada shoes..and I've always like body art. I can't say I have a solid reason for that black inky mark on my shoulder. I thought it looked cool and that was that. Was it an unconsciously fashion influenced decision? P'raps, I'll admit as much. As I said I'm not one to hop in and out of trends like a scalded rabbit, but if I like something I go for it. I thought long and hard before I decided to get it done, and I chose something that I knew I wasn't going to regret. Who knows maybe when I'm 40 y.o I'll regret having it done but then I could just put it down to being "young and dumb".

And you're absolutely right hun, I'm actually a WW2 sailor who joined a bikie gang, was convicted for felony or another and then after serving my term, let out and had reconstructive surgery. Sssh..don't tell anyone.

Do you think my tattoos are sexy? *grin*


Posted by: VirginPornStar on Apr 07, 07 | 4:57 pm

I personally think tattoos have now well and truly passed out of being a mere fashion fad and represent more of a cultural trend, with a spectrum of application, one end of which lies the entire body modification sub-culture weirdos, the other that cute butterfly on the beach girl's ass-cheek there. Hang maybe that was a REAL butterfly? All are valid if that's where you want to be. However If you decide in 20 years time you want to be somewhere else, ot's as you say, crazy wild child, big deal.

There a was collection of pictures going around, on a PPT called "unemployable". I think I deleted it -extreme facial body modification.

Those dragon tattoos spiralling up out the rear of a girl' g-string and low-riding jeans are also somewhat intriguing to a dirty old man, and to most dirty young men I know.

VPS: And yes, sexy is what I'd call your... everything... *grin*


Posted by: expat@large on Apr 07, 07 | 8:10 pm

However I reckon the skin over a girl's tattoo tastes sweeter... especially one on the lower back, the back of the shoulder, or at the start of the groin crease, or on the upper inner thigh... oooh, time for a cold shower!

- this just totally cracked me up!

nice temp tattoo e@l. did i ever tell you i'm into older men?


Posted by: The Ivy on Apr 07, 07 | 10:18 pm

Ivy: you know, this week, it's amazing, but you wouldn't be the first...

(not that I've done anything about it...)


Posted by: expat@large on Apr 08, 07 | 3:06 am

I guess I'm old fashioned, but I think Tatoos look terrible on men. On women depending on the location and type, they look better. However, I cannot overcome the old stereotype that if a woman has a tattoo that is visible-its like a big neon sign flashing, "I'm Easy!".

Besides, I don't need to see a tatoo to get excited, Flash me a little thigh and I'm off to the races!


Posted by: Skippy-san on Apr 08, 07 | 9:58 am

Skip: re: being easy, I was going to say that as well, because it was probably true back in the 70's when I was actually first on the prowl (in my six months of freedom before the gf got pregnant.)

But I didn't bring it up as I realize now my life might not be worth living if I offend... I hardly know any dermally virginous girls anymore. This trend has an incredible force and deep penetration. Even a proper lady like Valkyrie (see my Blogroll) has two giant dragon tattoos screaming across most of her back!


Posted by: expat@large on Apr 08, 07 | 12:01 pm

I got a tattoo before I lost my virginity.*grin*

In the small town that I come from, a tat says "gangster", or something like that. Back where I grew up tattoos are still associated with thugs and chicks with tats are "easy" or "wild".


Posted by: VirginPornStar on Apr 08, 07 | 4:44 pm

Hmmm. I'm not sure you can always equate tattoos with fashion. I suppose it's how the tattooEE approaches it. The Tasmanian Devil on your shoulder? Prolly fashion, or possibly a painfuly honest statement of your mental depths.

But look at it in the reverse light. Would you say Johnny Cash's perpetual black clothing was a fashion statement? Or a statement of an entirely different order of magnitude?


Posted by: MercerMachine on Apr 08, 07 | 7:00 pm

i like tattoos on men, i think they look cool. I've seen some really awesome pieces of art on my male friends. and female friends too. and none of them are easy. smart yes. talented yes. easy, no.

love the johnny cash thingy.


Posted by: The Ivy on Apr 08, 07 | 10:20 pm

VPS: then the messages you sent were received... The werewolves were on alert.

MM: Me have depths? Tattoos are a statement of membership of some club or other, imaginary or real, just as is the wearing of the latest fashions.

The club of people who "don't" follow fashion and who kid themselves they are individuals. They actually are fashion's bellwethers.

The club of people who do follow fashion and kid themselves they are trendy. They are, um, the followers.

Either way tattoos are permanent and they hurt.

Everything external is a statement - otherwise I wouldn't wear brand name shirts or elf-like hyper-expensive sandals. We are slaves, I tell you, SALLLAAAAAAAVVES!

Johnny Cash: wearing black is also a statement of membership; of the Johnny Cash club!... but put on an hawaiian shirt and play the ukelele in Folsom Prison and see how far it gets you. You may as well really be called Sue!


Posted by: expat@large on Apr 08, 07 | 11:37 pm


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